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like newt gingrich who says the epa, get rid of the epa. these are job creators, regulators, how do you confront republicans like newt gingrich who put that out there by saying i don't think that should exist. >> you know, moms across the country are speaking up right now saying we need stronger stands for soot. the results were overwhelming. we did a proposed rule to deal with greenhouse gases from new power plant. we got three million comments largely in favor. so i think it's easy to say, think right now the american people rightfully want their government to be efficient. they don't want it to waste money. they want to know that they're getting something when you have a regulatory agency, we should regulate smartly. we shouldn't be oppressive. we should be smart about it but we shouldn't go away. >> how do you attract businesses and private money and investment in private investment and the environment. >> i've been doing this almost 23 years we need certainty. we want to invest our money, but we want to know the rules aren't going to challenge. if carbon's the bag thing, that i'm n
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